On this second Sunday of the 2008 World Series, a lot of attention will be focused on the final table of Event #12: $1,500 Limit Hold’em. Yes, Vinnie Vinh leads going into day three of this tournament but a lot more interest will be paid to the number two man on the leader board, Erick Lindgren. The speculation, of course, is whether Erick can land a second bracelet in less than a week.
A lot of casual observers might see such a double-barreled feat as the result of a good run of cards or just a very good player being overdue. Perhaps a closer look into at just what the first week or so of the Series really looks like to a poker professional like Erick Lindgren might be illuminating.
Friday May 30th, Event #1: $10,000 Pot Limit Hold’em. Erick plays about eight hours before having his set of aces lose to another set with a bigger kicker.
Sunday June 1st, Event #2 Day 1B: $1,500 No Limit Hold’em. Erick is mostly card dead and goes out about mid-way in level three, still time for 18 holes before dusk.
Monday June 2nd, Event #4 (5 PM start): $5,000 Mixed Hold’em. Erick and ninety other players survive day one from a starting field of 332. With 8,400 chips. Erick Lindgren’s name is no where near the top of the leader board; not with the leader over 100,000.
Tuesday June 3rd, Event #4 day two: Twelve hours of play narrows the field from 91 to the final table nine. Erick will begin the final day fourth in chips but a veteran packed group has made the final table. Playing for the bracelet will be: David "Chino" Rheem 885,000, David Williams 678,500, Justin Bonomo 517,500, Erick Lindgren 345,000, Howard Lederer 324,500, Roland de Wolfe 194,000, Andrew Robl 162,000, Isaac Haxton 115,500 and Pat Pezzin 108,500.
Wednesday June 4th Event #4 Final Table: After 11 hours and 197 hands, Erick Lindgren defeats Justin Bonomo heads up and wins the bracelet. Nearly every media story leads with some variation of: “The best player never to win a bracelet…wins one!”
Thursday June 5th Event #9: $1,500 NLHE 6-handed. Less then 10 hours after winning a bracelet and who knows how many hours after the celebration ends, Erick Lindgren is back at the tables and perhaps understandably does not survive the first hour of this tournament.
Friday June 6th Event #11: $5,000 NLHE Shootout. Erick along with along with 359 others put up the $5,000 for this event. Thirty-six tables of ten players will play one round today, each table producing a single winner for tomorrow’s day two. Erick busts just before 5 P.M. and immediately registers for Event #12.
Friday June 6th Event 12 (5 P.M. start): $1,500 Limit Hold’em. Eight hundred and eighty players start this limit event with 181 making it to day two. Just before 3 A.M. play halts for the day with 15 hours of poker in two events, Erick has 27,300 chips, which is good for 12th spot on the leader board.
Saturday June 7th Event #12 day two. At 3 A.M. the tournament staff calls the end of a long day, which has not produced a final table of nine but rather two tables and eighteen players. Erick Lindgren will begin the final day second in chips with 244,000 and a shot at a second bracelet.
Sunday June 8th Event #12 day three. The final eighteen will begin play today at 2 PM PDT. After playing down to nine, they will take the ESPN interview/dinner break and then decide the bracelet late tonight. Erick Lindgren the “best player never to have won a second bracelet.”
[7:20 P.M. Erick Lindgren bubbles the final table in 10th place]
We have one week of the 2008 World Series of Poker behind us and some of the early questions have revolved around how 2008 would stack up against 2007. Has the economy, the gas prices and the fading poker boom taken its toll on the WSOP?
Well as far as the first week numbers go, the answer has to be a solid, definite 'wait and see'. Bolstered by nearly 4,000 players in the first $1,500 NLHE event, the first week has been close to or above the comparable event in 2007.
Here is how the first ten tournaments compared:
2008 Event #1
$10,000 Pot Limit Hold'em
Number of Entrants: 352
Number of 2007 entries: 398
(down but the 2007 event was a $5,000 buy-in)
2008 Event #2
$1,500 No Limit Hold'em
Number of Entrants: 3,929
2007 Entries 2,998
(previous record for non-main event registrations was 3,151)
2008 Event #3
$1,500 Pot Limit Hold'em
Number of Entrants: 713
2007 Entries: 781
(registrations off by about 10%)
2008 Event #4
$5,000 Mixed Hold'em
Number of Entrants: 332
2007 Entries: 451
(25% drop in entrants)
2008 Event #5
$1,000 No Limit Hold'em w/rebuys
Number of Entrants: 776 + 2,358 rebuys
2007 Entries: 814 + 1814 rebuys
(notice the huge increase in rebuys in a smaller field)
2008 Event #6
$1,500 Omaha Hi/Lo 8 or better
Number of Entrants: 833
2007 Entries: 690
(a big increase for the first Omaha event)
2008 Event #7
$2,000 No Limit Hold'em
Number of Entrants: 1,593
2007 Entries: 1,531
(up 60+ players)
2008 Event #8
$10,00 Mixed Event
Number of Entrants:
2007 Entries: this is a new event
(Eight different games in a $10,000 buy-in)
2008 Event #9
$1,500 No Limit Hold'em 6-handed
Number of Entrants: 1,236
2007 Entries: 1,427
(no late registrations were allowed for this event, which held down the numbers)
2008 Event #10
$2,500 Omaha 8/Stud 8
Number of Entrants: 388
2007 Entries: 327
(an increase of over 20%)
To be fair:
4 events had increases
2 events were decreases
1 event was a new tournament
1 event ($1,000 rebuy) had mixed results
1 event was increased from $5k to $10K
1 event had limited registration time
Quick somebody has to be the first to say it: "The name professionals are claiming (reclaiming?) the World Series of Poker, at least through the first eight event."
It's hard to argue with that assessment on the day after David Singer and Erick Lindgren took down bracelets. But if we look a bit deeper, I think we will see even more evidence of the professionals beginning to dominate the 2008 World Series. Erick took down the $5,000 Mixed Hold'em event and yes the bigger buy-ins attract more big name professionals but you can't lower the value of a bracelet just because it costs more to enter the event.
Erick was joined at the final table by Justin Bonomo (2nd), Roland de Wolfe (4th) Howard Lederer (6th), David Williams (7th), Isaac Haxton (9th)and by several less-than-household names, who are still clearly professional players. Andrew Robl (3rd), who is only an "unknown" because of his age and David Rheem (5th), who has four years of solid poker cashes behind his name.
David Singer won his bracelet in the $1,500 Pot Limit Hold'em event over Jacobo Fernandez, who final tabled at the LAPC last year and is accumulating a nice string of cashes for his poker resume.
The monster $1,500 NLHE event #2 that drew nearly 4,000 players was won by an amateur: Grant Hinkle but both Chris Ferguson and Theo Tran made that final table in an event that many professionals chose not to enter.
The opening event for the 2008 Series was a $10,000 Pot Limit Hold'em tournament. This first final table had one very new player and one outstanding newcomer, Amit Makhija. Other than that, you might recognize the rest of the field: Nenad Medic (1st), Andy Bloch (2nd), Kathy Liebert (3rd), Mike Seton 4th, Chris Bell 6th, Patrik Antonius 7th, Phil Laak 9th.
When talking about "professionals" there are several levels of recognition. Certainly professionals blessed by the poker television gods will be known to most readers of this blog. But when we get down near a final table at the WSOP, the call on media row goes out: "OK, who knows this guy?" It usually takes only a moment to find someone who saw the player in Barcelona or knows all the local Vegas pros. Event #5 is an example of this; down to the final nine, here is the line-up.
Michael Binger: tied the record (8) for most WSOP cashes in a single year and perhaps the only "name" professional at this final table.
Michael Banducci: four 2007 WSOP cashes, three 2006 WSOP cashes.
Jonathon Aguiar: local Las Vegas professional.
Jeff Williams: just a kid, with the 2008 EPT Monte Carlo championship and a million dollars in his pocket.
Alan Jaffrey: three 2007 WSOP cashes.
Peter Gould: a long list of major tournament places, including 3 at the WSOP.
Lyric Duveyoung: this will be his second cash at the 2008 Series.
Oh and looking ahead. Theo Tran is the chip leader after day one of Event #7 and last year's WSOP Player of the Year Tom Schneider leads event #8 followed closely by Gus Hansen.
Not even a week into the World Series it is too early to say this is the year of the pros. But strong early signs certainly make it something to speculate about.
Quick somebody has to be the first to say it: "The name professionals are claiming (reclaiming?) the World Series of Poker, at least through the first eight events."
It's hard to argue with that assessment on the day after David Singer and Erick Lindgren took down bracelets. But if we look a bit deeper, I think we will see even more evidence of the professionals beginning to dominate the 2008 World Series. Erick took down the $5,000 Mixed Hold'em event and yes the bigger buy-ins attract more big name professionals but you can't lower the value of a bracelet just because it costs more to enter the event.
Erick was joined at the final table by Justin Bonomo (2nd), Roland de Wolfe (4th) Howard Lederer (6th), David Williams (7th), Isaac Haxton (9th)and by several less-than-household names, who are still clearly professional players. Andrew Robl (3rd), who is only an "unknown" because of his age and David Rheem (5th), who has four years of solid poker cashes behind his name.
David Singer won his bracelet in the $1,500 Pot Limit Hold'em event over Jacobo Fernandez, who final tabled at the LAPC last year and is accumulating a nice string of cashes for his poker resume.
The monster $1,500 NLHE event #2 that drew nearly 4,000 players was won by an amateur: Grant Hinkle but both Chris Ferguson and Theo Tran made that final table in an event that many professionals chose not to enter.
The opening event for the 2008 Series was a $10,000 Pot Limit Hold'em tournament. This first final table had one very new player and one outstanding newcomer, Amit Makhija. Other than that, you might recognize the rest of the field: Nenad Medic (1st), Andy Bloch (2nd), Kathy Liebert (3rd), Mike Seton 4th, Chris Bell 6th, Patrik Antonius 7th, Phil Laak 9th.
When talking about "professionals" there are several levels of recognition. Certainly professionals blessed by the poker television gods will be known to most readers of this blog. But when we get down near a final table at the WSOP, the call on media row goes out: "OK, who knows this guy?" It usually takes only a moment to find someone who saw the player in Barcelona or knows all the local Vegas pros. Event #5 is an example of this; down to the final nine, here is the line-up.
Michael Binger: tied the record (8) for most WSOP cashes in a single year and perhaps the only "name" professional at this final table.
Michael Banducci: four 2007 WSOP cashes, three 2006 WSOP cashes.
Jonathon Aguiar: local Las Vegas professional.
Jeff Williams: just a kid, with the 2008 EPT Monte Carlo championship and a million dollars in his pocket.
Alan Jaffrey: three 2007 WSOP cashes.
Peter Gould: a long list of major tournament places, including 3 at the WSOP.
Lyric Duveyoung: this will be his second cash at the 2008 Series.
Event #6: $1,500 Omaha 8 or better will have a final table today led by two time bracelet winner, Scott Clements. He will be joined by: Thang Luu with 3 WSOP cashes; Mark Wilds, who has cashed in fourteen WSOP tournaments; George Guzman, who cashed in this event last year; Greg Jamison with one WSOP money under his belt and yes, to be fair, three amateurs with no records we can locate.
Oh and looking ahead. Theo Tran is the chip leader after day one of Event #7 and last year's WSOP Player of the Year Tom Schneider leads event #8 followed closely by Gus Hansen.
Not even a week into the World Series it is too early to say this is the year of the pros. But strong early signs certainly make it something to speculate about.
Quick somebody has to be the first to say it: "The name professionals are claiming (reclaiming?) the World Series of Poker, at least through the first eight event."
It's hard to argue with that assessment on the day after David Singer and Erick Lindgren took down bracelets. But if we look a bit deeper, I think we will see even more evidence of the professionals beginning to dominate the 2008 World Series. Erick took down the $5,000 Mixed Hold'em event and yes the bigger buy-ins attract more big name professionals but you can't lower the value of a bracelet just because it costs more to enter the event.
Erick was joined at the final table by Justin Bonomo (2nd), Roland de Wolfe (4th) Howard Lederer (6th), David Williams (7th), Isaac Haxton (9th)and by several less-than-household names, who are still clearly professional players. Andrew Robl (3rd), who is only an "unknown" because of his age and David Rheem (5th), who has four years of solid poker cashes behind his name.
David Singer won his bracelet in the $1,500 Pot Limit Hold'em event over Jacobo Fernandez, who final tabled at the LAPC last year and is accumulating a nice string of cashes for his poker resume.
The monster $1,500 NLHE event #2 that drew nearly 4,000 players was won by an amateur: Grant Hinkle but both Chris Ferguson and Theo Tran made that final table in an event that many professionals chose not to enter.
The opening event for the 2008 Series was a $10,000 Pot Limit Hold'em tournament. This first final table had one very new player and one outstanding newcomer, Amit Makhija. Other than that, you might recognize the rest of the field: Nenad Medic (1st), Andy Bloch (2nd), Kathy Liebert (3rd), Mike Seton 4th, Chris Bell 6th, Patrik Antonius 7th, Phil Laak 9th.
When talking about "professionals" there are several levels of recognition. Certainly professionals blessed by the poker television gods will be known to most readers of this blog. But when we get down near a final table at the WSOP, the call on media row goes out: "OK, who knows this guy?" It usually takes only a moment to find someone who saw the player in Barcelona or knows all the local Vegas pros. Event #5 is an example of this; down to the final nine, here is the line-up.
Michael Binger: tied the record (8) for most WSOP cashes in a single year and perhaps the only "name" professional at this final table.
Michael Banducci: four 2007 WSOP cashes, three 2006 WSOP cashes.
Jonathon Aguiar: local Las Vegas professional.
Jeff Williams: just a kid, with the 2008 EPT Monte Carlo championship and a million dollars in his pocket.
Alan Jaffrey: three 2007 WSOP cashes.
Peter Gould: a long list of major tournament places, including 3 at the WSOP.
Lyric Duveyoung: this will be his second cash at the 2008 Series.
Oh and looking ahead. Theo Tran is the chip leader after day one of Event #7 and last year's WSOP Player of the Year Tom Schneider leads event #8 followed closely by Gus Hansen.
Not even a week into the World Series it is too early to say this is the year of the pros. But strong early signs certainly make it something to speculate about.
Quick somebody has to be the first to say it: "The name professionals are claiming (reclaiming?) the World Series of Poker, at least through the first eight event."
It's hard to argue with that assessment on the day after David Singer and Erick Lindgren took down bracelets. But if we look a bit deeper, I think we will see even more evidence of the professionals beginning to dominate the 2008 World Series. Erick took down the $5,000 Mixed Hold'em event and yes the bigger buy-ins attract more big name professionals but you can't lower the value of a bracelet just because it costs more to enter the event.
Erick was joined at the final table by Justin Bonomo (2nd), Roland de Wolfe (4th) Howard Lederer (6th), David Williams (7th), Isaac Haxton (9th)and by several less-than-household names, who are still clearly professional players. Andrew Robl (3rd), who is only an "unknown" because of his age and David Rheem (5th), who has four years of solid poker cashes behind his name.
David Singer won his bracelet in the $1,500 Pot Limit Hold'em event over Jacobo Fernandez, who final tabled at the LAPC last year and is accumulating a nice string of cashes for his poker resume.
The monster $1,500 NLHE event #2 that drew nearly 4,000 players was won by an amateur: Grant Hinkle but both Chris Ferguson and Theo Tran made that final table in an event that many professionals chose not to enter.
The opening event for the 2008 Series was a $10,000 Pot Limit Hold'em tournament. This first final table had one very new player and one outstanding newcomer, Amit Makhija. Other than that, you might recognize the rest of the field: Nenad Medic (1st), Andy Bloch (2nd), Kathy Liebert (3rd), Mike Seton 4th, Chris Bell 6th, Patrik Antonius 7th, Phil Laak 9th.
When talking about "professionals" there are several levels of recognition. Certainly professionals blessed by the poker television gods will be known to most readers of this blog. But when we get down near a final table at the WSOP, the call on media row goes out: "OK, who knows this guy?" It usually takes only a moment to find someone who saw the player in Barcelona or knows all the local Vegas pros. Event #5 is an example of this; down to the final nine, here is the line-up.
Michael Binger: tied the record (8) for most WSOP cashes in a single year and perhaps the only "name" professional at this final table.
Michael Banducci: four 2007 WSOP cashes, three 2006 WSOP cashes.
Jonathon Aguiar: local Las Vegas professional.
Jeff Williams: just a kid, with the 2008 EPT Monte Carlo championship and a million dollars in his pocket.
Alan Jaffrey: three 2007 WSOP cashes.
Peter Gould: a long list of major tournament places, including 3 at the WSOP.
Lyric Duveyoung: this will be his second cash at the 2008 Series.
Oh and looking ahead. Theo Tran is the chip leader after day one of Event #7 and last year's WSOP Player of the Year Tom Schneider leads event #8 followed closely by Gus Hansen.
Not even a week into the World Series it is too early to say this is the year of the pros. But strong early signs certainly make it something to speculate about.
Well they got through the record breaking 3,929 players in Event #2 with a couple of very long nights and I think they learned their lesson that a "four day event" with two day ones is really just a three day event with a very nasty, long day two.
Today is the brand new $10,000 Mixed Game Championship. Eight different poker games in one event. A really interesting event they have created here. But there is (was?) a big problem with the structure. [see late ADDENDUM below]
The games are:
1) Deuce-to-seven triple draw;
2) Fixed-limit hold'em;
3) Omaha-8 (hi/lo split);
4) Razz;
5) Seven-card stud;
6) Seven-card stud (hi/lo split, 8 or better);
7) No-limit hold'em;
8) Pot-limit Omaha.
This is the structure:
Tables are eight handed. Each level is one hour. The games changes every eight hands BUT they also change based on the clock. In the first twenty minutes of each round, games 1, 2, 3 are rotated. In the second twenty minutes, games 4, 5, 6 rotate every eight hands; the last twenty minutes of each hour, games 7 & 8 are played.
Here is (was) the problem. Both Hi/Lo games are (were) going to be shorted hands. With only twenty minutes to play three games (24 hands) they simply are not going to get full rounds of either Omaha 8 (game 3) or Stud 8 (game 6). In fact, at some tables they would not even get to games 3 or 6 in rounds slowed by a couple of action hands in the early games.
Players are (did?) going to complain but once the event has begun, it is difficult to change the structure sheet. They should just play eight hands of each game and use the clock to change the blinds, antes and bring-ins but not the games.
ADDENDUM: The published (currently published) structure sheet for this event does not have the 20 minute per set limit as originally stated. The games are being played 8 hands each and the time clock adjusts the blinds and antes during whichever round the tables are on. This means that tables will be playing different games at different times as the event progresses, which is why other mixed games, like H.O.R.S.E. are played by the clock and not by the number of hands and perhaps why this event was structured differently at some point. Congratulations to the WSOP staff for making this modification.
One question: When there are redraws for seats will all tables restart at the beginning of the structure sheet with game one? And if so, what happens to the clock?